Russell was a fish scientist and I was, and remain, a billfish advocate, so our relationship seemed like a natural fit — he and I were both passionate about fishing and improving fisheries management and conservation. Russell had been the director of Florida’s Marine Fisheries Commission, so his efforts dealt with many species. I, however, was so enamored of billfish that they were my primary concern, until I learned overfishing of tuna often increased the number of billfish killed as bycatch. I was so fortunate because Russell was a rare scientist who understood both the scientific and policy aspects of conservation and management. My academic background in law meant I knew policy, but Russell oftentimes ensured I had a good working knowledge of the technical science as well. So, yes, we fueled each other’s fire, but neither of us needed it, because we were both enthusiastic about conservation and responsible fisheries management.