With Frank Mather, actually, at Walker's Cay in the Bahamas in 1977. I was working as Frank's mate, fishing on his 28-foot Bertram, Ahi. I think his wife, Natalie, was with us, but that was it. We were pulling mullet, ballyhoo and bonefish in the spread, which was customary at the time — obviously things are different now. We rigged everything on No. 12 or 15 wire. We had a long rigger bite from a nice fish that we missed. A few hours later, we had a bite on the mullet, and we caught that marlin. That one kind of solidified the notion of, Yeah, I really want to do this for a living.